Reader Photos

The quantity and variety of sailboat and sailing photos we receive shows the wide range of good old boats that have been built. You send us your photos (to our digital media contact nancyk@goodoldboat.com) and we post them here. Every two months we look at the most recent photos and select a favorite for what we call our Editor's Choice Award. That photo is printed in our magazine Mail Buoy pages and we send the photographer a big thanks in the form of a T-shirt or a ball cap.

Anchored at Twin Island, Whitefish Bay


Twin Islands, Whitefish Bay, but Photographer Dave Debney

Mark St. Denis and Don Lindsay of the Northern Yacht Club of Ontario organized a recent Cruise Week on Lake of the Woods. Fourteen boats participated and here are a few of them anchored out at Twin Islands in the Whitefish Bay area. Photographer and sailor Dave Debney captured this and several other lovely shots from the week. Dave sails a 1986 Mirage 25 named Timeout.


Cynosura,
Allied Sea Wind 30


John Howe's Allied Sea Wind

John Howe's beautiful Allied Sea Wind 3 is shown here at anchor in Roscoe Bay, British Columbia, Desolation Sound. She has been cruising with the Howe family for four generations, since 1969


Falcon VII, Peterson 46

Ian Douglas Photo

Small world! Ken Pfister snapped this photo of a nice Peterson 46, Falcon VII, anchored in Canada's Tod Inlet, on Vancouver Island. What Ken didn't realize is that this boat belongs to Jim and Tricia Bowen, good friends of Good Old Boat editor Michael Robertson.


Sunset on Martha's Vineyard

Ian Douglas Photo

Ian Douglas used his iPhone to snap this photo of an unknown boat at sunset, scooting into the gut to Lake Tashmoo on Martha's Vineyard.



Rubaiyat sloop

Rubaiyat

My boat, named Rubaiyat by the previous owner, is a double head-sail sloop manufactured by Edey & Duff of Mattapoisett, Mass. as the Stone Horse model.  "Stone Horse" itself honors a lightship retired in 1963 that served as a sentinel at the Stone Horse Shoal. Edey & Duff produced about 150 fiberglass models patterned after a Sam Crocker design from 1931.  My Rubaiyat is hull #133, hull #1 still sails out of Boston.

In this photo Rubaiyat has had her sails and booms removed, oil changed and anti-freeze refreshed in preparation for winter...the mast will be pulled after haul-out and stored in a barn.  Near sun-set, the autumn leaves glowed and gave her a nice Ruby-red sail (doncha think?). -- Larry Arvidson


Catalina

Catalina 30

"We call this spot The Beaver Pond because there's a Beaver Lodge in the back of this little cove. " wrote Jeff Reimer when he sent us this lovely shot of Destiny, his 1984 Catalina 30. The Beaver Pond is among the Benjamin Islands, which Jeff, his wife, Deb, and their daughter, Lillie, love to explore and which Good Old Boat founder Karen Larson describes as, "other wordly."


Kootenay Lake Sailing Asscociation

Kootenay Lake Sailing Association

Gil Bogaard of the Kootenay Lake Sailing Asscociation in British Columbia sent this colorfully processed photo he took of one of the club's Rum Cup races. The three boats running are a J/29, San Juan 30, and Santana 27.


Pearson 36 Pilothouse

Pearson 36 Pilothouse

Springtide, pictured here in Casco Bay, Maine, is a 1980 Pearson 36 Pilothouse owned by John and Regina Ballinger. In addition to exploring Casco Bay and the Boston area, the couple enjoys sailing in Narragansett Bay. Only 30 or so pilothouse versions were built, based on the Pearson 365 hull.


J24

J24

Rudy Dracka sent us this photo of kids of the Port Clinton Yacht Club in Ohio, aboard the perfectly named J/24, Juice Box Hero.


Cape Dory 36

Cape Dory 36

Les Hyde and Anne Coggers's Cape Dory 36, Nutmeg,  sailing Blue Hill Bay heading toward the Casco Passage. -- Russ Campbell


Black Dolphin

Black Dolphin

Black Dolphin is a ketch designed by Hugh Angelman, launched in Inglewood, California in 1944, and now serving as a educational platform at our international school in Hong Kong. In this photo she is sailing off the southern side of Hong Kong Island. We bought her in 2014 and have traced all of the owners from 1950 until today, but we cannot find any information from 1944 to 1950. -- Craig Blurton


CS 22

CS 22

Just a note to share a photo of our good old boat, Knot Perfect. She is a 1975 CS 22. The photo was taken by my partner, Lissy, at the end of a stellar day of sailing this past fall on Sylvia Lake in Pinawa, Manitoba. I would also like to add that I was very happy to see the review in the Jan/Feb 2017 issue of the Hunter 20, a boat size that I could relate to. Thank You for producing this type of magazine "for the rest of us." -- Doug Sawatzky


Ericson Independence 31

Ericson Independence 31

This is my favorite image from this past sailing season." wrote Greg Ross of Bonshaw, Prince Edward Island. Here his Layla II, an Ericson Independence 31, is resting in Ross Pond, West Bay, Bras d'Or Lakes, Cape Breton, Nova Scotia.


Herreshoff 27 cat ketch

Herreshoff 27 cat ketch

My Herreshoff 27 cat ketch is hull #2 of approximately 8, and was built in Honduras. Her unstayed rig can fly wing and wing allowing the booms to extend ahead of beam when desired for very safe downwind sailing. With an Ariex-cored hull and deck, the dry-weight is published at 3,850 lbs. of which 2,000 is lead." -- Lee Nyboer, Grosse Pointe, MI


Topsail schooner

Topsail schooner

John Churchill sent us this photo he took of the square topsail schooner Lynx, taken off of Fort Myers Beach, Florida. Lynx, 122 feet long overall and 76 feet on deck, is a replica of the original Lynx, which fought briefly in the War of 1812. She's a pretty sight under sail.



Lippincott 30

Lippincott 30

Every Wednesday several of us get together for an evening sail.  Depending on who shows up which boat(s) we will take.  This photo was taken from a Lippincott 30 last evening.  We sail on Joe Pool lake in North Texas. This night there was no wind to a very light wind.  We put up an asymmetrical spinnaker with very light sheets.

I enjoy your Magazine. -- Howard Webb


Rhodes Swiftsure 33

Rhodes Swiftsure 33

Norm LeBlanc sent us this photo he took of his cousin, Bill LeBlanc, sailing the beautifully restored Second Page, Bill's 1959 Rhodes Swiftsure 33 (hull #2). It looks like a perfect sailing day on Salem Sound in Salem, Mass.


Catalina 25

Catalina 25

I always look forward to the next issue! I have been meaning to send this photo of our two kids, Kendrick (9) and Jacqueline (10), in an early morning stretch after the first night on the boat for the season. Our 1989 Catalina 25 is called Fair Lass and she is at the State Marina in St. Ignace, Michigan.  My wife, Tonya Brace, is the photographer." -- Chris Brace



Mirage 27

Mirage 27

This was taken in September 2016 and shows Connemara, my 1982 Mirage 27, with a bone in her teeth during a club race in Ashbridge's Bay (Toronto harbour). -- Michael Smith


Bristol 32

Bristol 32

Steve Detwiler returning home to Barnegat Bay, NJ, after a day sailing off the coast in his 1976 Bristol 32. Great fun on a great good old boat. Photo by Jane Detwiler.


Allmand 31

Allmand 31

My Wife and I cruised the Bahamas for eleven winters in 3 boats, an Allied Mistress 39, an Irwin 37, and an Allmand 31. Unfortunately, with advancing age and medical reasons we now stay ashore. Of the hundreds of photographs taken over the years, this is my favorite: First Mate Jennifer and ship's dog Sophie crossing the little Bahama Bank in the Allmand 31, Stowaway, which was surprisingly comfortable for it's size but a bit light for offshore passages. The other two boats worked well for the Bahamas.

My name is Peter Stow  and I am a retired Navy Commander and civilian Captain, also have been a Marine Surveyor for 20 years but trying to quit. I also deployed as a Canadian Exchange Officer in the USS Intrepid as Surface Operations officer and Staff Navigator  just before she retired to New York.

We live on beautiful Hubbards Cove, 30 miles South of Halifax. Have owned many boats but in my 80th year am reduced to a fishing boat for the Bay.


C&C 33

C&C 33

I took this picture this past August at Queen Island, Lake of the Woods, Ontario. The boat's name is Auberge and is a C&C 33 owned by Keith & Carole Holm of Winnipeg Manitoba. Regards, Dave Debney


Westerly Centaur

Westerly Centaur

David Beard is the new owner of this clean, cared-for 1972 Westerly Centaur. He bought Blown Away in Kentucky and is bringing her south to her new home port in Mobile, Alabama, via the Tennessee River and the Tenn-Tom waterway. Pictured in the companionway is David's son, Lee Beard.


Tartan 30

Tartan 30

With the light just right, Kevin Frost climbed in the dinghy to shoot this pretty picture of his lovely wife aboard their lovely Tartan 30, Escape. They're anchored off Green Island, Wisconsin, a short sail from their home port of Menominee, Michigan.


Niagara 31

Niagara 31

You have a photo of White Heather, our Niagara 31, on a Reader's Photos Page already; I thought I would send this drone shot because it's pretty.

We have now refitted the teak in the interior, replaced all the cushions and we cruise/ race her around Lake Ontario.-- Courtney Cayley


Catalina C-22

Catalina C-22

Here's a picture of my good old boat, a 1986 Catalina C-22 named Kellie Marie tied up at my campsite. As far as I know, I am the fourth owner and she has been in fresh water her entire life.  When I bought her, she was in a slip and being sailed regularly.  I trailered her home and went to work fixing her up with new bulkheads and interior plywood, updating the running rigging and putting my shop and love of woodwork to good use. Although I don't get to sail her as often as I'd like to, having her is the fulfillment of a childhood dream.

I can't tell you how much I enjoy getting your magazine, reading it cover to cover and then passing it along to my friends with Good Old Boats. -- Kenneth Mull



Cal 25

Cal 35

That's me at the helm of Caliente, my 1983 Cal 35, and a 'Good Old Friend' , Dave Hudson from Millsboro, Delaware, beside me. My wife, Janice, took the photo from the shore at Hull Gut, a narrow deepwater passage that connects Hull and Hingham Bays to Boston Harbor and the Atlantic. WWII battleships, aircraft carriers, and, in the 60's-70's, submarines and LNG Tankers built at the Fore River Shipyard in Quincy, Massachusetts, have passed through the Gut. Pretty fierce opposing currents pose a challenge to sailors who want to sail through unassisted by the iron genny. That's Peddocks Island in the background, where part of the Di Caprio movie Shutter Island was filmed.  -- Ed White


Islander 36

Islander 36

Mike Reed of Bellingham, Washington, was at anchor aboard his 1974 Islander 36, Islander, in Barkley Sound on the west coast of Vancouver Island when he found himself immersed in this summertime spectacle.


Dyer Dhow dingy

Dyer Dhow dingy

My husband completed his "winter project" of lovingly restoring our old Dyer Dhow dingy in time for our sailing trip to Penobscot Bay in Maine. This photo was taken in Monhegan Harbor July 3rd, 2016.  By far my most favorite photo of the trip!  Our other "old boat" is a 1975 39' Pearson Yawl, still in various stages of restoration!  Thanks for a great magazine, we always look forward to reading it! -- Carol McMahon, Gloucester, MA


Columbia 34

Bill and Lucas

This picture is of me and my 3-year-old grandson, Lucas, aboard Freedom Row, my 1971 Columbia 34, out for Norfolk's Harborfest on Chesapeake Bay.  The little guy was not nervous at all, even when the Coast Guard told us to move farther out from the Navy Base! -- Bill Flandermeyer


Seafarer 30

Seafarer 30

My Seafarer 30, Galefilero, ghosting past Blow Me Down Bluff near Holyrood NL. The photo was taken by a friend using a drone. -- Don Parsons


Catalina 27

Catalina 27

This is a photo of our 1979 Catalina 27, Mystic, tied to her dock in Tavernier, Florida on July 9, 2016. Mystic can be found sailing in the Florida Keys, mostly on "bay-side" and occasionally on "ocean-side". I purchased Mystic in 2013 from a charity auction on eBay for an incredibly small sum after reading a Good Old Boat article about finding inexpensive, good boats on eBay. She turned out to be a solid boat but in need of some TLC and a number of upgrades. While she was useable immediately, she wasn't reliable. Now, three years later she is a much improved, reliable little cruiser and the work list has changed from "needs" to "nice to haves". She has returned our family to sailing after an absence of over 10 years. One of my favorite past times has become shopping in consignment stores for new bits and pieces that will upgrade her and make her look a little less her age. From the very beginning she has more than returned the small investment we've made in her, and we are looking forward to many new adventures with her. -- Gary A. Gabriele



At Seal Bay, Maine

At Seal Bay, Maine

Here is a photo taken in Seal Bay on the east side of Vinalhaven Island in Penobscot Bay, Maine, as the sun was setting and dinner was about to begin, one August evening a few summers ago aboard our J/40, Watermusic. — Lenny Reich


Precision 23

Precision 23

David Coughlin and his father, Mike Coughlin, have David's Precision 23 in the groove sailing Maryland's Middle River on their way to Hart-Miller Island. Mike is 87 years old and raced Chesapeake 20`s as a teen growing up in Annapolis. This was his first sail in over 60 years!


Ericson 27

Ericson 27

I thought your readers would like this photo of my 1975 Ericson 27, Safrada, a good old boat taking a break in Sunset Bay, off Jedediah Island in the Strait of Georgia, British Columbia--a yachtsman's paradise. -- Mike Law


Boston Whaler

Boston Whaler

Ed Romjue of Bellingham, Washington, relaxes aboard a Boston Whaler, surveying Mt. Baker from a mooring off Clark Island State Park, in the northern San Juan Islands. Curtis Romjue captured the scene.


Morgan Out Island 37 ketch

Morgan 37 ketch with dolphins  

Our boat is named Live The Dash. We chose the name is based on "The Dash", a poem by Linda Ellis which is about making every moment count. Live The Dash cruises the US and British Virgin Islands from her home port in St Croix.

This photo was taken off the north coast of St Croix on an idyllic day sail while a pod of dolphins played in our bow wave.

Good Old Boat has provided guidance for many DIY projects on our 39 year old good boat. Thank you! -- Jeff & Dawn-Marie Rudolph



Ericson 32

Ericson 32

Avelinda is a pretty Ericson 32 owned by husband and wife Peter Milholland and Carey Hotaling. She's reaching nicely under genoa alone on what looks like a perfect sailing day.


Bristol 29.9

Bristol 29.9

Velella is here skippered by owner Michael Boucher, on his birthday, just a month after he and his wife, Elizabeth Patten, bought the 1979 Bristol 29.9. We think she looks pretty good in this photo, but Michael reports that Velella's since been painted and tuned-up and is even more gorgeous.


Cape Dory 30

Cape Dory 30

After a 40,000 mile circumnavigation ending with a hard winter in Alaska, this good old boat – a 1978 Cape Dory 30 – is startled to find the face of the Dawes Glacier retreated nearly three miles from where the latest charts indicate. My wife and I wrote a book (Orca) about our voyage. It has been well received by the offshore cruising community (4.7 of 5 stars for 40+ reviews).  Our inexpensive old boat was a central character throughout the trip, loyal and steadfast despite the times we ran her onto reefs or rolled her mast underwater in tough weather. -- John & Kara Pennington


Rhodes 22

Rhodes 22

This is a photo of me sailing my Rhodes 22, Beach Spring, built in 1998 and "recycled" in 2014.  I am a retired university music teacher who continues to work part time directing a volunteer church choir. Beach Spring is the name of an 1844 Sacred Harp pentatonic hymn tune, the original text of which was "Come, all Christians, be committed to the service of the Lord." I like the tune and text, and absolutely love sailing the boat. My favorite sailing buddy is my four year old grandson who thinks HE is the captain.  I first sailed about 49 years ago when my high school sweetheart and wife-to-be taught me on her Sunfish sailboat. This photo was taken by another retired music teacher, Jon Montgomery.  The boat is kept at Lighthouse Landing near Grand Rivers, Kentucky and sailed on Kentucky Lake.  -- Bob Weiss Jr.


Rafiki 37

Rafiki 37

This is a photo of June and I sailing MaliaLynn on the San Francisco Bay California. MaliaLynn is a Rafiki 37 designed by Stan Huntingford. She is 37' on deck 41' loa draws 6' beam 11'8". This boat has been in our family since her build in 1978. She celebrated her 38th birthday April this year. Currently she is under going a refit. A great sea boat. -- Stephen and June Sage


420

420

This was on the Glenmore Reservoir in Calgary! Although in the middle of the prairies, it is a great place for both beginners and experts to sail. The conditions are great for sailing, and the shifting winds make for a fun but challenging day out on the water. We were sailing one of the Glenmore Sailing School's new 420 boats - a double-handed dinghy that the school uses for lessons and racing. For me, sailing is a great way to relax and enjoy being outside, and I especially love to be out on the water. Sailing is an adventure, and an amazing opportunity to appreciate the world around us. Not only that, but it is a great way for me to meet new friends, especially like-minded individuals that share my passion for sailing. I can't wait to be back out on the water! -- Morgan Gregg


Compac 19

Compac 19

This is our 1984 Compac 19, Rita Marlene, while on vacation in Egg Harbor, Wisconsin last summer.  We trailered her 900 miles from our home in NW Arkansas to enjoy the waters of Door County.  Rita Marlene is a great pocket cruiser who has spent the majority of her life sailing on Lake Erie before we purchased her and moved her south.  Next on the wish list for a boat trip is to take her down to the Gulf and Mobile Bay. -- Tony Rodriguez, Bella Vista, AR


Shannon 38 Ketch

Shannon 38 Ketch

Vince and Julie Bednar stopped in at Pickle Bills in Grand River, Ohio, for lunch. Taking a picture of Free Spirit, their 1981 Shannon 38 Ketch, Julie captured some dock-walking admirers.


Balboa 8.2

Balboa 8.2

My three friends and I refurbished my 1978 Balboa 8.2 over the course of 18 months.  It was a group effort and I really appreciated the dedicated efforts of Peter Mahr, Nick Corrado and Bob Robolds, all of whom have boats of their own to maintain.   Prior to repainting with Awlgrip we removed all the hardware, drilled and filled the holes and spent way too much money on tracks, cars, hardware, repowered, new sails, roller furling, self-tailers etc.  It's shown here about to have the mast stepped and launched into the Columbia River near Portland Oregon.   I believe it's the prettiest Balboa ever built or restored and I'm very confident that it's the most expensive. -- Mark Brodesser


Newport 28

Newport 28 on left

John Raines took this picture of Trinity on the left, his 1977 C&C design Newport 28. The sky with puffy clouds, the water calm and no breeze. Peaceful morning.



Sloop

J & E Riggin

I took this photo of the J & E Riggin under full sail in a light breeze headed north in Penobscot Bay just to the NW of Islesboro Island, Maine on Oct. 6, 2015. -- Hal Wells


Irwin 23

Irwin 23

ShaBoat Shalom is Steve Wein's Irwin 23, shown here with water reflection on the hull and the custom bowsprit/anchor platform Steve built and installed.


Pearson P-28

Pearson P-28

Here is a picture of my Good Old Boat  Aurelia a 1977 Pearson P-28.  I am the original owner, purchased new in 1978 (left over) and commissioned in the Spring of 1979.  Over the years lots of upgrades and replacements.  We sail on Peconic Bay  eastern Long Island, NY. -- Algirdas Vilkas


Macgregor 25

Macgregor 25

Jerry McAneney sails his 1982 Macgregor 25 on New York's Keuka Lake in the gorgeous Finger Lake region.


C&C Corvette

C&C Corvette

This is Nellie Belle with PlasDeck installed. She is a 1967 C&C Corvette. My Good Old Boat.  -- Aubrey Laughlin



Island Trader 37

Island Trader 37

Avanti, a 37-foot Island Trader built in Taiwan in 1977, sails past an unnamed cascade of water just south of Chatterbox Falls on Princess Louisa Sound, British Columbia. Shipmate Kari Thoresen took the picture from the ship's kayak. Capt. Tommy Cook, Avanti's owner, met Kari aboard the tall ship Lady Washington. Kari is a top choice for crew on Avanti's long list of crew and will be joining for a voyage to Haida Gwaii (formerly known as The Queen Charlotte Islands) in August 2016.


Naval Academy 44s

Annapolis Naval Academy 44s

Attached please find a photo for the Annapolis Naval Academy 44s Racing on the Severn River, Classic History and Fleet. -- Bennett Lavenstein, MD'


Marshall 22 catboat

Marshall 22 catboat

Attached, you'll find a picture of our Good Old Boat, Cranberry, a 1973 Marshall 22 catboat. This was taken in May of 2015, as I was fitting her out for the season (note the toolbag on the dock). -- Brent Putnam


Mariner 28

Mariner 28

This photo was taken last June from our bedroom balcony, overlooking our dock in Bath Creek, Bath, Ontario, Canada. We have owned Day-by-Day, our 1978 Mariner 28, since early 2014.' We have been carrying out significant upgrading and in the photo we have the Bimini frame up, waiting for the installers to attach the new Bimini canvas.

It was a perfectly still day and the reflections of the clouds makes it look as though the boat is suspended in the air. -- David Salter

P.S. Our previous boat was Opportunity, a Corbin 39, that was featured in GOB in May/June 2011.' That article shows the Juliet balcony on page 21. The buyer sailed the boat to Brisbane, Australia, and she now has yet another new owner.



Boston Whaler Harpoon 5.2

Boston Whaler Harpoon 5.2

Pete Begich sails his Boston Whaler Harpoon 5.2, appropriately named Quee Queg, on lakes and reservoirs in Arizona. Here Quee Queg is sailing under reefed main on Arizona's Willow Lake.


Paceship 23

Paceship 23

Meet the love of my life (and oh, yes, my wife and kids are also aboard). Zeitgeist is a 1979 Paceship 23 which I painstakingly restored over the last few years in tandem with my personal advisor, Good Old Boat magazine beside me. This picture represents a glorious return to the San Juan Islands last summer. I'd not been in those waters since 1994 when I braved it in a tiny Sydney 17. The trip introduced my family to these gorgeous sailing grounds. -- Chris Sheesley, MA


Vineyard Vixen 29

Here is a picture of Eastaway, my Vineyard Vixen 29, going to weather just north of Pooles Island, on the Northern Chesapeake Bay. This is my second Vixen 29 and is one of my favorite boats of all time, easy to sail, fast for her size, and very sea-kindly in a storm. Eastaway was built in 1978 by Martha's Vineyard Ship Yard and hides her age well. -- Ernie Meade


Hunter 27

Hunter 27

This is a picture of our boat, Ruby Slipper, and our friends', Steve and Sharon Ketelsen, boat anchored in Pilot's Cove on the North Channel north Lake Huron. ' 'We trailered our boats, Ketelsen's Sabre 28 from Nebraska and our Hunter 27 from Kansas. ' On one of our first days out on our cruise we stayed in Pilot's Cove and had a wonderful, peaceful anchorage that night.'-- Colleen 'and Gene Lindgren


West Indies 36

West Iindies 36

I purchased my 1976 West Indies 36 — hull #4 — 5 months ago. Here she is in dock on Tampa Bay, where I sail. 40 were built between 1976 and 1979, by Heritage Yacht Corp. designed and built by Charley Morgan in Clearwater, Fl. My boat was in the movie Dolphin Tale, 2011, Kris Kristofferson lived on her in the movie! She is thick and strong and has had a major'refit $$$'by my previous owners from 2007-2014. She has a great turn of speed, 36'5" on deck, 12 ft beam, 4 ft draft, 695 SA. 17000 lbs. Love Good Old Boat mag. Thanks, Jeff Thaw.


Hughes 26

Hughes 26

Here is one of our favourite boat photos. Paul and Arlie Clegg cruise their 1978 Hughes 26 all over the Salish Sea on British Columbia's inside coast. Here, Smooth Moves is close reaching up Lewis Channel.


Bristol 41.1

Bristol 41.1

Here is a friend's boat at anchor in Woodbine Harbor, Simpson Island, Ontario. I shot this photo from our boat, also at anchor in Woodbine.

Her name is Nokomis, and she's a Bristol 41.1, built in Bristol, RI in 1987. It is noted that only 11 Bristol 41.1s have the aft cockpit like this. -- Larry Carpenter


Hunter 27

Hunter 27

It's a beautiful morning as I head out to PlayMate for a day of sailing. She's a 1976 Hunter 27 originally from Massachusetts that I have owned for 8 years. I keep her at Armdale Yacht Club in Halifax, Nova Scotia. Most of my sailing is between Halifax and Mahone Bay, NS. -- Stuart Servant



We have a page of photos sent to us prior to the above, but had to start a second page and a third page and a fourth page. You guys are really prolific photographers, and you looooove your boats.


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